ignorirebuli uzenaesis gadawyvetileba da kanonze maRla mdgari sagadasaxado sistema-devna sikvdilis Semdeg

kaxa CavleSvili: guram baqaniZe faqtiurad awames da gaanadgures. devna sikvdilis Semdegac_aseTi absurdi, aseTi ukanonoba, msgavsi araferi minaxavs. ratomRac am adamianTan damokidebuleba yvela CarCodan gadis, amis axsna samarTlebrivad SeuZlebelia~.

saxelmwifo organoebis mxridan gansakuTrebuli sadamsjelo yuradReba guram baqaniZis mimarT mas Semdeg gaCnda, roca `viRaceebma~ mewarmis SeZlebuloba Seityves. misi, rogorc kerZo piris, mimarT sisxlis samarTlebrivi devna 2007 wlis maisidan dRemde, misi gardacvalebis Semdegac grZeldeba. usaSvelobaSi gadasuli da dausrulebeli saqmis bundovanebasa da gaurkvevlobas iuristi kaxa CavleSvili `kanonis yvela CarCodan gasuls da samarTlebrivad auxsnels~ uwodebs.

saqmis labirinTuli warmoeba pirdapiri vaWrobis da pirovnebis devnis safuZveli gaxda. amas emateba jarimebis seria da advokatis ganmartebiT `marto kacis~ weliwadnaxevriani brZola  mTeli sagadasaxado sistemis winaaRmdeg. gayiduli binebi, daSlili biznesi da sajaro moxeleebis mxridan miyenebuli materialuri da moraluri ziani rogorc kaxa CavleSvili ambobs, bolos baqaniZis gardacvalebis mizezi gaxda, kanonze maRla dayenebuli individebis interesebs Sewiruli uflebaSelaxuli gadamxdelis devna ki, memkvidreobiT xasiaTs iZens. guram baqaniZis gardacvalebidan mexuTe dRes, sagadasaxados mxridan kidev erTi jarimis Sesaxeb ecnoba ojaxs. baqaniZeebs im 11 aTasi laris ukan dabruneba ekisrebaT, romlis maTTvis gadaxda uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT sagadasaxados daekisra. baqaniZis advokati, kaxa CavleSvili aRniSnulze `guriis moambes~ ramdenime kiTxvas pasuxobs, Tavis mosazrebas afiqsirebs aseve eqsperti sagadasaxados ganxriT irakli gabisonia.

kaxa CavleSvili: `2011 wlis 30 martis uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT, baTilad iqna cnobili sagadasaxados mier gamocemuli aqtebi guram baqaniZisaTvis jarimis saxiT sanqciis dakisrebaze. uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba aRsrulda da ukve gadaxdili 11 aTasi lari mTeli davebis, didi problemebis, winaaRmdegobebis miuxedavad daubrunda ukan. amis Semdeg guram baqaniZem, am baTilad cnobili aqtis, sagadasaxado moTxovnis Semdgenze Seitana sarCeli sasamarTloSi. kanoni iTvaliswinebs, rom, Tu ki saxelmwifo, an sajaro moxele adamians miayenebs zians, maSin man pasuxi unda agos Tavis ukanono qmedebaze. amitom mimarTa sasamarTlos da mooiTxova miyenebuli zianis anazRaureba, zianSi Sedioda is, rom 11 aTasi lari waarTves am kacs. imitom, rom pirveli instanciis sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis Semdeg aRar daelodnen uzenaesis gadawyvetilebas, miadgnen baqaniZes gaayidines ori bina baTumSi, gadaaxdevines es Tanxa. baqaniZem amis Semdeg gaagrZela dava da moigo. mere moiTxova am zianis anazRaureba. radgan binebi Zalian iafad gayida, sarCelSi moiTxova im binebis realuri safasuris anazRaureba da kidev sxvadasxva zianis anazRaureba maTi mimyeneblebis mxridan. mogexsenebaT, mere gardaicvala batoni gurami, etyoba amdeni stresis da nerviulobis niadagze, radgan faqtiurad marto kaci ebrZoda mTels sagadasaxado sistemas weliwadnaxevris ganmavlobaSi. es fsiqologiurad Zalian Zneli gadasatania. maSin roca marTali xar. aman Seuwyo yvelaferma xeli, rom am kacs janmrTeloba Seusustda da gardaicvala. guram baqaniZe gardaicvala 13 aprils da sadRac 18 aprils, is Tanxa, romelic uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT baqaniZes daubrunda ukan, isev mas daaweeres gadasaxdelad.

motivi ra aris, romeli gadawyvetilebis safuZvelze daakisres es jarima?

zustad im gadawyvetilebis safuZvelze, rac ukanonod scno uzenaesma sasamarTlom. maSin uzenaesma ori ZiriTadi faqtori gamoyo: erTi is, rom unda Seswavliliyo inventarizaciis komisiis kanoniereba da meore, CaeTvalaT baqaniZis mxridan wignebSi gamartivebuli buRalteriiT aRricxuli sasaqonlo-materialuri faseulobebi. moadgnen amis Semdeg baqaniZes, iyo ramdenime zari, ramdenime werili, sadac sTxovdnen am sabuRaltro dokumentacias, im dokumentacias, romelic maT ukve waRebuli hqondaT. gaugzavna guramma aqti, am dokumentaciis amoRebis Sesaxeb, Semosavlebis samsaxuris sagamoZiebo departamentis mier Sedgenili, magram mainc eubnebodnen moZebne Seno. sad unda moeZebna, is rac ukve waRebuli iyo da amis damadasturebeli aqti arsebobda? etyoba TviTon dakarges es dokumentacia, mere adgnen gaimartives saqme da isev gurams daakisres es Tanxa gadasaxdelad.

am Tanxis gadaxda mis samarTalmemkvidres daekisreba?

xo, magram misma samarTalmemkvidrem gaasaCivra es Semosavlebis samsaxurSi, magram ar daukmayofiles sarCeli. axla vamzadebT axal sarCels da waviRebT davebis ganxilvis sabWoSi.

adamianis samarTlebrivi devna misi gardacvalebis Semdeg, amas ra Sefaseba SeiZleba mieces? 

faqtiurad awames da gaanadgures adamiani. imdeni usamarTloba, imdeni problemebi, faqtiurad devna sajaro xelisuflebis mxridan, gardacvalebis Semdegac. axla kide unda gavagzavnoT strasburgSi es dava_maSin damTavrda es da axla isev daiwyoo, ra vqnaT aba. raxan amdeni xani gagrZelda, mere albaT SviliSvilebze gadava. ra giTxraT, sruli uazrobaa Tavidan bolomde. uzenaesis miTiTebebi da gadawyvetileba saerTod aigdes, ignori gaukeTes. aseTi absurdi, aseTi ukanonoba, msgavsi araferi minaxavs. ratomRac es saqme, am adamianTan damokidebuleba yvela CarCodan gadis, amis axsna samarTlebrivad ubralod SeuZlebelia. ar vici ra danaSauli unda hqondes adamians amnairi. 6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi 6-jer daajarimes. Tan tyuilad, ukanonod.

`guriis moambe~ eqsperts sagadasaxado ganxriT baton irakli gabisonias daukavSirda da sagadasaxados mxridan baqaniZis gardacvalebis Semdeg xelaxlad dawyebul davaze, ganaxlebul jarimebze, ignorirebul uzenaesis gadawyvetilebaze da aRniSnulTan dakavSirebiT saxelmwifos rolze komentaris gakeTeba sTxova: `Tu uzenaesma sasamarTlom Tavisi gadawyvetilebiT gauuqma baqaniZes dakisrebuli jarima da sagadasaxados moqmedeba scno ukanonod, sagadasaxado ki, amas ar scnobs es ra Tqma unda ukanonoba da usamarTlobaa. saerTod warmoudgenelia uzenaesis gadawyvetilebas vinme SeewinaaRmdegos da is ar Sesruldes. rasac Tqven miyvebiT, aqedan namdvilad irkveva sagadasaxados Secdomebi, gadamxdelis uflebebis darRveva. Sefaseba SeiZleba am SemTxvevaSi iyos erTi, rom irRveva gadamxdelis uflebebi da reagireba unda moaxdinos amaze zemdgomma sagadasaxadom da aseve sagadasaxado ombucmenma da ra Tqma unda saxelmwifom, romelic pasuxismgebelia sajaro moxelis ukanono moqmedebaze. me Zalian didi survili gamiCnda am Temis Tanmimdevrulad Seswavlis da mere SemiZlia ufro Rrma da argumentirebuli daskvna gavakeTo am yvelaferze~.  

siCumis miRma

Seucvleli midgomebi Zaladobis sakiTxebisadmi da problemis ignorireba erTnairad angrevs adamianebis fsiqikas, ojaxis usafrTxoebas, janmrTelobas da cxovrebas, magram miuxedavad yvelafrisa, ojaxuri Zaladoba dRevandel sazogadoebaSic ki tabudadebul Temad rCeba. Tu ratom eridebian da ufrTxian adamianebi TavianTi piradi cxovrebis gamomzeurebas, ratom itanen wlebis ganmavlobaSi tkivils da ratom ver axerxeben TavianTi cxovrebis Secvlas?_amaze pasuxi ramdenime mimarTulebiT yovelTvis Cndeba.

 siCume unda dairRves-TiToeulma da yvelam erTad Cveni uflebebis dacvaze unda vifiqroT da vifiqroT imazec, rom is, risi dafarvac mxolod Sinagan tkivilTan da Seryeul cnobierebasTan aris dakavSirebuli, tabuirebulad ar davtovoT. arsebobs mizezebi da situaciebi, roca adamianebs urCevniaT mudmivad SeinarCunon amtanoba, vidre samzeurze gamoitanon is, rac maT ojaxurs exeba. aq yvelaze did barierad, ramac SeiZleba vinmes moTmenis unari gamoumuSavos, msgavsi tabuirebuli sakiTxebis mimarT Tavad sazogadoebis damokidebuleba saxeldeba. TavSekavebac swored aqedan Cndeba_ramdenad sworad gaigebs sakuTari ojaxuri problemis gamoaSkaravebas is adamianebi, vinc Cvens gverdiT cxovroben, iqneb Cvenze metadac tkivilianebi, magram sakuTar `naWuWSi~ Caketilebi. mere ra, Tundac imaze fiqrisganc Tavisufalni, im Taobebis fsiqika gadarCinon ngrevas, romelTa mexsierebaSi arasasurveli scenebis Caleqva negatiur da arasaxarbielo Sedegebs iRebs.

ojaxis erTi wevris mier, Zalauflebisa da kontrolis mizniT sxva ojaxis wevrze Zaladoba, cema, janmrTelobis dazianeba, sityvieri muqara Tu nebismier formaSi gamoxatuli moZaladis saqcieli, dRes yvelaze xSirad, mxolod msxverplis tanjvaSi, cremlebsa da sulier tkivilSi imaleba. umoqmedobas da siCumis gaurRvevlobas ufro individualuri, magram mainc zogadi xasiaTi aqvs da yovelTvis yvelaze samwuxarod aq ugulvelyofilia yvelaze mTavari, mesamis, anu e.w mayureblis uflebaze fiqri. dazaralebuli coli, romelsac Seswevs Zala aitanos yvela Seuracxyofa, fizikuri Tu sulieri tkivili da Tavadve ver xsnis ratom-SiSis, morCilebis Tu aTas sxva mizezTa gamo, am SemTxvevaSi tkivilis Tmenas mxolod im midgomad Tu ganvixilavT, roca mdgomareobis Sesacvlelad mxolod mizezebs veZebT da ara saSualebas. da maSin mxolod aseT colebTan ki ar unda gagviCndes kiTxva-ratom itan? ufro aseT dedebTan_ratom xdi valdebuls Sens Svilebs aitanos? deda, yovelTvis unda gamovides am SemTxvevaSi ara meuRlis, ara sazogadoebis, aramed Svilebis interesebidan, romelTa cxovreba iseve maxinjdeba da ingreva, am sazizRari suraTebis yurebisas, rogorc Tavad Zaladobis msxverplis. da ufiqriT Tu ara aseT dedebs maTi moTmineba ras aRviZebs im momavalSi, romelmac xval axali sazogadoeba unda Seqmnas da cxovrebaSi Tavisi adgilis damkvidreba SeZlos? roca qmari Senze fizikurad Zaladobs, Sen ki amis atana gamogimuSavda, am amtanobas Senive Svilebis cnobiereba rom msxverplad ewireba amaze vin unda ifiqros? da ifiqros Tundac imitom, rom depresiuli, Caketili da araTavdajerebuli Svili, xval swored am sazogadoebis SeqmnaSi miiRebs Tavis wvlils da Sedegebic swored iseTive arasasurveli gveqneba, rogorc maTi mZime bavSvoba.

ratom ver cvlian adamianebi TavianT cxovrebas? aq sazogadoebas ufro didi wvlili miuZRvis Tu saxelmwifos?

 maSin roca sazogadoeba Seadgens swored am saxelmwifos, aucilebelia cnobierebis done gascdes im stigmaturad da tabuirebulad miCneul Temebze potins, rac nebismieri mimarTulebiT mxolod ngrevis sawindari xdeba. roca megobari, mezobeli, axlobeli uyureb Tu rogor Zaladobs erTi ojaxis wevri meoreze, imaze nu ki iwyeb msjelobas, aq gamowvevis SemTxvevasTan gvqonda saqme, Tu ubralod paTologiasTan. msgavsi didaqtikebi, mxolod Senive gonierebaSi ileqeba, rac xval da zeg yvelaze didi, axali ganmartebebis moZiebaSi Segiwyobs xels, problema ki, isev problemad, siCume ki iseve daurRvevlad dagvrCeba. an ratom SeiZleba sazogadoebis interesis sfero mudmivad mxolod mtyuan-marTlis Zieba iyos da ara imaze adeqvaturi reaqcia, ratom unda rCebodnen dausjelni moZaladeebi? iqneb swored Cveni inertulobis damsaxurebaa, roca adamianebis umravlesoba uTqmelad itans tkivils, Cveni araswori reaqciis SiSiT, imaze fiqriT, vin rogor gaigebs mis tkivils da ra mimarTulebiT ganixilaven rogorc dazaralebulis rols Seqmnil situaciaSi. iqneb Cveni damsaxurebaa isic, roca qveyanaSi TavSesafrebis arsebobas ara praqtikul, aramed Teoriul datvirTvas ufro aZleven dRes, radgan misi ufro meti raodenobis saWiroebasa da aucileblobaze Rrmad arc dafiqrebulan. da maSin ra moTxovnebi unda gvqondes suliT mkurnalobis Terapiis danergvaze, romelic yvela ganviTarebul qveyanaSi yvelaze moTxovnad dargad iTvleba, swored imitomac, rom sakuTar meSi miCumaTebuli yvela im protestis da sulieri simZimis gaTavisebis da masTan brZolis unari gamogvimuSavdes, rac xval da zeg imas mainc gvaswavlis-amtanoba mxolod im danaSaulis formad rom SeiZleba CagveTvalos, rac gvametebinebs sakuTar Tavsac, Svilebsac, mSoblebsac da im sazogadoebasac, romelic swored Cvenma momavalma unda Seqmnas im momaval xvalindel dRes.    

dakarguli bavSvoba

ojaxi, rogorc sazogadoebis ZiriTadi ujredi da gansakuTrebiT bavSvebis zrdisa da keTildReobis bunebrivi garemo, bavSvis pirovnebis da harmoniuli ganviTarebisTvis sruli pirobebis dacvas unda emsaxurebodes, radgan bavSvs swored misi fizikuri da gonebrivi moumwifeblobis gamo esaWiroeba specialuri dacva da zrunva. mSoblebi erToblivad ageben pasuxs bavSvebze zrunvis uzrunvelyofaze, maT fizkur, gonebriv, silier, zneobriv da socialur ganviTarebaze, sazogadoebaSi damoukidebeli cxovrebisaTvis momzadebaze. amitomac miiCneven bavSvis harmoniuli ganviTarebisaTvis mis bunebriv ojaxur garemoSi gazrdas mniSvnelovnad da aucileblad, sadac yvelanairi sabaziso pirobebi unda iyos daculi.

bavSvis uflebebis dacva, maTi interesebis gaTaviseba, maTze zrunvis uzrunvelyofa, es iseTive aqsioma unda iyos, rogorc zrdasrul asakSi adamianebis mxridan sakuTar uflebebze zrunva. es albaT ufro ganviTarebul qveynebSi, sadac sazogadoebrivi cnobiereba im simaRleebs wvdeba, sadac yvelaze mniSvnelovani da sayuradRebo sakiTxebis ugulvelyofas mentalobis da stereotipebis CarCoebSi ar ganixilaven, sadac ar uZebnian gamarTlebas iseT sakiTxebs, rogoric mozardebze Zaladoba da ojaxuri konfliqtebia. aseT Temebs tabus mxolod CvenSi Tu  daadeben, risi miCumaTebac, mxolod bumerangad rom moubrundeba erT mSvenier dRes qveyanasac da sazogadoebasac. imitom, rom dRes mxolod gansja rCeba umTavres iaraRad, Tundac ojaxSi bavSvze Zaladobis, maTi diskriminaciis dros.

mSobelma bavSvi mkacrad dasaja-fizikurad gausworda, sityvieri Seuracxyofa miayena, sxvebis TandaswrebiT Searcxvina `Tavisi adgili miuCina~-kedelTan, bnel oTaxSi, abazanaSi da aiZula saaTobiT efiqra mxolod `Tavis danaSaulze~, rom xval da zeg igive Secdoma ar daeSva, am yvelaferma Sveba moutana ojaxis ufros wevrebs, stumrad myof mezobels, axlobels da gadawyvita, xmamaRla Tu ara, TavisTvis mainc gaefiqrebina_Wkuis saswavlebelia, aseTi Tavneba aRar iqneba. da Tu Tavneba ar iqneba, aRar Seawuxebs sazogadoebas, romelic mieCvia yvelgan da yvelaferSi simSvidis SenarCunebas. hoda swored maSin, roca es Zaladoba viRacis simSvideze gadis, iqneb vifiqroT imazec, ra zinas ayenebs `msxverpls~, romelic mxolod imisTvis daisaja, rom mSobels gacnobierebuli ara aqvs, ratom unda hqondes mas Tavisi nebis Tavisuflad gamoxatvis ufleba. da ra moaqvs erTis am simSvidis fonze miRebul meoris sulier foriaqs, romelic mxolod azianebs da amaxinjebs fsiqikas? ratom hgonia vinmes, rom saaTobiT kedelTan atuzuli bavSvi, mxolod imaze fiqrobs meored ase aRar moiqces da ara imaze, ratom cxovrobs iseT garemoSi, sadac ar cnoben misi, rogorc bavSvis uflebas, sadac mSobeli Tavis wil pasuxismgeblobas ver iRebs mis winaSe, saWirodac ar Tvlis mas gaugos, gaufrTxildes, mis interesebs emsaxuros. amaze dafiqrebuli ki, romelsac yvelaze metad ugrovdeba boRma, brazi da tkivili, xval wamoZaxebebis reJimSi iwyebs mSobelTan urTierTobas, gaRizianebuli xvdeba nebismier gamowvevas sazogadoebis Tu zogadad cxovrebis mxridan_amitomac ibnevian, amitomac kompleqsdebian, amitomac uWirT adgilis damkvidreba sazogadoebaSi. rodesac bavSvi pataraobidanve eCveva, rom mSobeli masze Zaladobs da ufleba aqvs is dasajos, roca imaze dafiqrdeba, vis unda daecva is, roca es sWirdeboda, ramdenad logikuri iqneba SefasebebSi? ramdenad sworad aRiqvams realurs? ramdenad gaacnobierebs pativiscemis grZnobas sxvebis mimarT?_nuTu ar Seawuxebs is, rom mas Tavidanve eqceodnen upativcemulod? Seuracxyofdnen da arcxvendnen sxvebis TandaswrebiTac ki, Tan is adamianebi, visac pirvelebs unda efiqraT mis usafrTxoebaze?

sainteresoa kuTxeSi dayenebuli sakuTari SviliviT, romlisTvisac dasjas  `gamosaworebel~ Terapid miiCneven, erTxel mainc Tu dafiqrebulan mSoblebi ra Sedegebi SeiZleba mohyves bavSvebze Zaladobas? an ratom hgoniaT, rom bavSvebTan xmamaRali saubari, muqara, cema, Cveulebriv movlenad unda aRiqmebodes? me, mSobeli Tu gadaRlili var, an samuSaoTi, an emociebiT, ratom vavaldebuleb bavSvs amis gamo Tavis Tavze itvirTos, Cems mosvenebaze fiqri? an ratom uyurebs mezobeli Cveulebrivad dedas, an mamas, romelic alkohols mijaWvuli, ubralod imis gamo scems Tavis Svils, rom xasiaTis cudi Tvisebebi iRviZebs masSi simTvralis dros? ratom unda miiRos sazogadoebam normalurad, roca mSobeli Tavad wyvets mis Svils dautovos Tu ara magaliTad swavlis ufleba? sityvis, azris gamoxatvis ufleba? ratom xdeba, rom mSobelsa da Svils Soris kamaTis dros yovelTvis cdiloben gaamarTlon mSobeli da xazi gausvan Svilis gauzrdelobas, mxolod imitom, rom ufross gaubeda da Sekadra Sepasuxeba? aq yovelTvis ikargeba Tu ara is simarTle da WeSmariteba, rac normalur sazogadoebaSi swored kamaTSi unda ibadebodes? vin gadawyvita, rom bavSvi, mozardi valdebulia uxmod daemorCilos ded-mamis brZanebebs, gadawyvetilebebs, maSinac ki, roca es winaaRmdegobaSi modis mis interesebTan? da ratom ar vfiqrdebiT imaze, rom bavSvisgan aseTi garemos Seswavlisas gamomuSavebuli Tavdacva, xval mxolod Zalismier meTodebze iqneba dafuZnebuli? da dumils, maSin roca unda vamxeldeT, Tu bumerangis efeqti ara aqvs, ratom momravlda faqtebi, roca ojaxis wevrebs erTmaneTisTvis sasikvdilo ganaCeni gamoaqvT da mama, deda, Svili martivad imeteben erTmaneTs?

ratom ar vaRiarebT, rom es dRevandeli realoba, guSindeli dRidan, damaxinjebuli bavSvobidan modis? roca mSoblebi mentalobas da zne-Cveulebas mxolod imas uwodebs, rom ufrosis sityva kanonia. da es kanoni samarTlebriv CarCoSi imitom unda moeqces, rom xelSi mxolod jiqur motanili ufros-umcrosobis Teoria ar SegvrCes_amaze da kidev imazec, rom Teoriebis potinSi jansaRi, ganaTlebuli, Tavisufali da uflebadaculi momavali Taobis nacvlad, SeSinebuli, dakompleqsebuli, uflebaayrili, gaRizianebuli da garemoSi dakarguli Svilebi ar SegvrCes xelSi, kidev ramden xans dagvWirdeba fiqri?